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pardsisalegend 11:15 Fri Oct 20
So glad we moved stadium

The owners conned us

13 Brentford Rd 7:51 Mon Oct 23
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......and they deceived the fans about the stadium.
At least fucking try and fulfil one of their claims, but no they sell their 52k ST on a load of hot air and then show nothing but contempt for the fans.
Biggest cunts in football by a long way, they are dinosaurs!

13 Brentford Rd 7:45 Mon Oct 23
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OTB, I don't think anyone expected anything too much in the first season, but what we should be seeing by now are signs of progress, certainly not 17th place with same humiliations home and away and the owners and Billic learning nothing and actually taking us backwards.

El Scorchio 7:30 Mon Oct 23
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No it's not, but I genuinely think he's really not getting what he should be out of the group of players we have at the club. For me it's no coincidence that Ayew, Snodgrass, Fonte, Zaza, Tore, Feghouli, Callieri, Nordveidt and Arnautovic (almost all our transfers in- and the jury is out on Chicharito in my mind) have performed well below the level we should reasonably expect since arriving.

That for me is organisation, coaching, training, fitness and preparation. Those are the manager's areas.

I'd say only Zabaleta, Masuaku and Fernandes (possibly) have actually been positives. In addition, other players seem to have regressed.

But as I said, if the manager is perceived to be failing, (and it's handy to be able to hide behind a struggling manager) then the board must act, which they are not. The buck still stops with them ultimately.

penners28 7:13 Mon Oct 23
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people do realise they have actually weakened the squad over the summer. Is that slavs fault as well then?

ultimately the buck stops with the manager, and i do feel now is the time to go. they are never going to back slav and have completely undermined him.

Johnson 7:12 Mon Oct 23
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Who's insisting they thought next level meant next year, OtB?

Just one name will do...

El Scorchio 7:09 Mon Oct 23
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What we've been doing is paying OTT prices for average players (or at least players who have only put in average/disappointing performances) and balking at paying proper big money for proper big players (at least those who would be prepared to move to us) It's a pretty piss poor strategy, whether deliberate or accidental.

The only thing I'll say in their defence is that they should be expecting better on pitch return from the players they have invested in. Basically every player who has come in during the last three windows has woefully underperformed with regard to what they were doing prior to being at West Ham. That's no coincidence and I think that's the responsibility of the manager.

Then again, they are the ones and the ONLY ones with the power to address that and currently they are failing to do so.

cornish 7:09 Mon Oct 23
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We are in a new stadium,nothing you say is going to change that so get over it.

penners28 6:58 Mon Oct 23
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I think people thought by "next level" the onners meant we'd be having productive transfer windows where we signed top top players.

unfortunately its apparent they have no intention of doing so. This isnt going to change either. I can fully see why people thought they have been conned. you dont just turn into a top 6 team by moving stadiums...

maybe if the lapdogs took the popcorn and £10 burgers out of their ears they would understand this

JustAFatKevinDavies 6:57 Mon Oct 23
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I agree OTB, but just because people were stupid enough to buy it, doesn't mean you cant be angry with them for trying to sell it that way.

On The Ball 6:53 Mon Oct 23
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I'd say the stupid ones are those that thought (or insist they thought) that "next level" meant "next year". On what world would we suddenly be competing with the big boys after one year?

El Scorchio 6:21 Mon Oct 23
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'This evening marks the first home game for the club since the victory over Swansea City last month, a game in which neither the players nor the fans bothered to make an effort until the last ten minutes.'

I hate this sentence and I think it really misrepresents us. The fans ALWAYS make the vocal effort at the start of a game. It's up to the team to give us at least SOMETHING to continue making noise about after that. When they serve up absolute dirge like that game and the Brighton one, it's very hard to cheer them on because there's honestly nothing to cheer about.

Absolutely agree that we should be expecting more from the club though after we more than held up our end of the bargain by selling out a big amount of season tickets two years in a row. Given the noises coming out of the club, I absolutely expect better in terms of on field product. You could almost excuse us being rubbish at times when we were still at Upton Park as there were times when we were skint and there wasn't means to compete with a lot of teams. After all the talk and bravado, we need better. We DO have a decent amount of wedge now. We ARE one of the biggest clubs in the land. We need to start acting like it.

cup of tea 6:17 Mon Oct 23
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Re opening line of original post

"The owners conned us "

No they didn't, they conned those STUPID enough to believe the hype and next level bollocks. Those of us with any sense and ability to see what was happening are not shocked or conned

goose 6:15 Mon Oct 23
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no they wont do it.

for someone who pretends to have a high powered job and be intelligent - you aint half stupid.

Swiss. 6:09 Mon Oct 23
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Moose

If people stop going don't you not think they may do it. The main thing would to move the seating onto the running track. Would that be so expensive to do?

Dr Moose 6:04 Mon Oct 23
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Swiss. 5:42 Mon Oct 23

Unless we get a cash rich multi billionaire that wants to buy the Hotpoint and convert it, its wishful thinking that it will ever be converted into a football stadium.

Northern Sold 5:51 Mon Oct 23
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From the Times..... inbetween the lines what I think they are getting as is that it is a fucking Cesspit maybe??


West Ham United fans still don’t feel at home in ‘soulless’ London Stadium

Alyson Rudd discovers broken promises and not enough bubbles at former Olympic venue
On the very same day that a West Ham United supporters’ match-day hub opened at the London Stadium, the 70-year-old supporters’ club back at the old Boleyn Ground was forced to close.

It is tempting to see some deep significance in the events a few weeks ago, to suppose that fans have moved on both literally and metaphorically and are getting to grips with life in their new home. Nothing could be further from the truth. The London Stadium is not yet home, the fans bemoan its lack of community spirit and believe the match-day experience is far removed from what was promised.
West Ham have gone for the cheap option, in classic Del Boy fashion, but the people who are millionaires are the board and players.

This evening marks the first home game for the club since the victory over Swansea City last month, a game in which neither the players nor the fans bothered to make an effort until the last ten minutes. As apathy mingled with jeers it seemed as if the whole concept of home advantage had evaporated.
The original supporters’ club building is something of a cause célèbre and a crowdfunding initiative has been launched to renovate it so that it can meet the health and safety requirements that were breached and led to its closure. “We’ve lost enough as it is with leaving the Boleyn, we don’t want to lose any more,” Paul Christmas, chairman of the West Ham United Independent Supporters’ Association (WHUISA), explains.

This does not represent a refusal to accept the death of Upton Park. Christmas says that the ideal outcome would be for there to be two supporters’ clubs, the original one, formed in 1947, and a new one at the London Stadium. “The fans have had so much change they are looking for some of the old experiences they had at Upton Park to help cushion the blow,” he says.
The contrast between the match-day routine for games at the Boleyn and games at the new ground could not be more stark and is at the heart of why there is often little in the way of a decent atmosphere inside the stadium. “We are tenants in a semi-converted athletics stadium while our London rivals have or will have state-of-the-art, purpose-built football stadiums,” Christmas says.

“West Ham have gone for the cheap option, in classic Del Boy fashion, but the people who are millionaires are the board and players. The fans are trying to make it our home but it’s not easy.”
It hurts that Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea are developing stadiums at their original grounds. “We are going to a stadium but it could be anyone’s,” Kim Perryman, a season ticket-holder says. “Spurs at Wembley has fan parks sorted and branded it well and they are only there for a season, while we are at the London Stadium for the next 98 years.”

The grumbles start early on match day. The Westfield shopping centre does not welcome fans and the walks from the various stations are long and boring. “We have moved from the centre of an urban community to a vast expanse of a park with little infrastructure,” Christmas says. “With there being so many stakeholders it takes time for any meaningful change to come about, if at all. The fans have to focus on what West Ham can actually do. In reality, that is little.”

Perryman accepts that the club have made some welcome changes after the mistakes of the first season. Stewards are friendlier, fans have been able to sit with their mates and the club ditched its policy of putting tourists behind the goal which made robust singing impossible. Karren Brady, the vice-chairman, meets regularly with bloggers to get their feedback and the club have introduced 40 match-day supporter liaison officers who listen to gripes.

Perryman, a WHUISA committee member, likes her seat and her view but had to pay £300 more for it than she did at Upton Park. “It does feel temporary and, inside, looks temporary,” she says. “There is disillusionment over what we were promised. Retractable seating was promised across the track and that never happened. We know we’re only tenants and no more important than a rock concert.
“There has to be far more engagement. There is a feeling that, as long as we pay our money, they don’t care.”

Christmas believes the promise that the club would shift to the next level in performance has been broken. “The fans have kept their side of the bargain as they have sold out 52,000 season tickets,” he says. “A team that is successful and entertains, we will respond to that. The board pledged we would go to the next level. That would help to melt away a few of the issues.

“The pledge of a solution to the distance of seats to pitch failed when the proposed company went bust so we have scaffolding for the lower tier. Fans were very close at Upton Park, now few are within ten yards of the pitch — the vast majority are 20 to 90 yards away.”

For the match-day vibe of old to be replicated, the restructuring of the Olympic Park has to be finished and that could take 20 years which, as Perryman says, “is a long time to wait”.

In the meantime, the WHUISA wants better lighting and sign posting, improved access for disabled fans, more team information on the big screens, a few more bubble machines, cheaper food and beer, scarf and badge sellers and market stalls. “We’re trying to keep the spit and sawdust element,” Christmas says. “We had a vibrant atmosphere pre-match at Upton Park. We’ve got none of that now, it’s very soulless.”

13 Brentford Rd 5:45 Mon Oct 23
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The point is there was an implicit deal and lots of noise was made about how good the stadium would be and that it would improve our stature and help us compete at the top instead of the middle or bottom.

Truth be told, neither is true and if anything we are going backwards.

It's the utter contempt for our fans that gets me.

goose 5:44 Mon Oct 23
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it's not our 'home', it's just where we happen to play our home games.

goose 5:44 Mon Oct 23
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Swiss. 5:42 Mon Oct 23
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who is going to pay for that? and more importantly - why would they?

only 98 years left, nothing to worry about.

Alwaysaniron 5:43 Mon Oct 23
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Fantastic... Another fucking stadium thread. Move on or fuck off, the constant griping about our new stadium is at the very best tedious.

Moan and protest against the board and how they've conned us as much as you want, and rightly so. However, this is our home so get used to it.

goose 5:42 Mon Oct 23
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thus far the OS has only provided a financial benefit for little Dave & Beardy.
otherwise the investment in the playing staff has stagnated or gone backwards.

i could ask what the point was of moving but its too late now. the club died when we moved.

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